I am a regular listener to NPR and usually find its programming informative and entertaining. To my dismay yesterday they featured the disgraced former member of the Dutch Parliament Ayaan Hirsi Ali on Talk of the Nation to promote her book “Infidel“.
Ayaan is being presented to the West as a model Muslim who is in awe of everything Western and modern and can proselytize the virtues of feminism, globalization, and any other fashionable ism to the Muslim World. Indeed she is one of the favorite Muslims of the West.
The only problem with this of course is that she is not a Muslim. She is an atheist, she does not believe in the Quran or any of the basics tenets of Islam, and her only claim to Islam is that she was born into a Somali Muslim family. To quote Sheikh Hamza Yusuf “Muslim mom + dad does not = Muslim”. Islam is not Judaism, where anyone believing almost anything born to a Jewish woman is Jew, and Islam is not Catholicism or Hinduism which have similar belief regarding birth and faith. In Islam if you do not believe you are not a Muslim, what your parents are is irrelevant, and what your name is means nothing, Ayaan does not believe therefore she is a non-Muslim, a kafir, or as her titles says, an infidel ( although I prefer the translation disbeliever) .
The favorite Muslims of the West are non-Muslim, apostates, and those on the progressive fringes of Islam. Do you think Neal Conan would have been interviewing a Somali woman who has written positively about Islam and Somali culture? No, he will interview an Ayaan, or a Salman Rushdie, or a Orhan Pamuk; but never anyone who represents the great currents of thought in the Muslim ummah. You will not find any voices in the American media on Islam other than the fanatic and the sellout (or the demagogue) and nothing that seeks to humanize the aspirations of the ummah.
The story that Ayaan tells in her book, which I have not read, may or may not be true and we know that she has lied in the past, but let us leave that aside for now because no one is without sin. The crux of the issue for me is that she tells a story of abuse, female genital mutilation, and bad marriage as if this were all because of Islam and Islam endorses these things and leads her readers to believe that these things are Islamic when nothing can be further from the case. All of these things are bad, and they are un-Islamic as the Sunnah is to be kind to your children and families and the scholars of Islam have condemned FGM which is a practice that predates Islam and is not exclusive to Muslims at this time.
The same thing occurred in the film Ayaan worked on with Dutch Filmmaker Theo Van Gogh ( being murdered does not change the fact he was an idiot) when he told the tale of abused women and incestuous relationships with ayaat of the Quran mixed in as if this was something condoned by Islam and not something that occurs when people leave the teachings of Islam. That is akin to blaming a vegetarian for someone eating meat or a pacifist for someone taking up arms.
The campaign of disinformation that Ayaan is on is not based on facts or reason but is a gimmick that exploits people’s fear of Islam and Muslims. In the tradition of African-Americans of generations past who would be brought on TV and radio to say there was no problem of race in America while the likes of Martin Luther King, Jr. marched Ayaan has filled the role of the Tom in the debate on Islam and now she is bringing her minstrel show to America.
She has come to speak before white audiences of good white-liberals and neo-cons who share a bond of Islamophobia who can all pat themselves on the backs and say “ see, we are not bigots, one of them says the same things we do.” Ayaan will put on a show, and will get paid, and will find friends in the organized anti-Muslim lobby, and will laugh all the way to the bank because she knows it is all a game even if her naïve supporters think it is real.
So as she has come to conquer America Ayaan will find many friends, the right will love her because they will use her work to justify hatred of Muslims and war, and the left will lover her because she is “so pretty” (in reality she is just looks like a less than average Somali woman) and she can speak so good against religion and promoted forced feminism.
Mayors Conversion
As brother Amad has pointed out our new brother in Islam (May Allah keep him on the straight path) the Mayor of Macon, GA Hakim Mansour is under attack by anti-Muslim bloggers and forces in the community after converting. Please pray for him and do what you can to refute the onslaught against him insha’Allah.
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Abu Sinan // February 6, 2007 at 8:42 pm |
One more person jumping on the anti-Muslim gravy train. Her audience will be just like those of Manji and Nomani, the right wing, the Islamophobes, and Zionists.
They all ignore the lying she didnt to get asylum in the Netherlands.
All of the money in the world wont help her one bit on the last day.
Muslimah_Mouse // February 6, 2007 at 9:13 pm |
Reading about Ayaan Hirsi Ali just frustrates me even more than I already am. I wonder, though – is there any way at all to counter the damage she and her ilk are doing? Perhaps it’s just wishful thinking on my part, but I do think that there has to be SOME way to fight back (and to anyone who might think otherwise, NO, I don’t mean fighting back violently!)…
Ideas, anyone?
Your little sister in Islam,
Mouse
Hanifah bint Will // February 6, 2007 at 9:29 pm |
Yes, we can fight back by being true to our deen – instead of looking the part. You know the old saying, “Actions speak louder than words.”
Safia // February 6, 2007 at 9:34 pm |
Salaam,
I saw this quote from Hirsi Ali on eteraz.org, which they took from one of her interviews.
The question was, does she see any positive in Islam?
And her answer:
“That’s like asking if I see positive sides to Nazism, communism, Catholicism.”
She has no regard for religion. And Muslims are supposed to listen to her? What I find funny is that she’s supposed to be some champion for suffering Muslim women, but what Muslim woman would feel anything but alienated and hurt at her insults about the Prophet (pbuh), the hijab, and faith in general? She doesn’t even respect Muslim women.
And to hear the interviews, she’s the great hope for the Muslim world. What idiocy.
Jordan // February 6, 2007 at 11:09 pm |
I have a question about being born into Islam.
Yes, Judaism is based on maternal lineage, but in Islamic and even Muslim majority countries like Malaysia, aren’t citizens assigned faith based on their parents?
This is especially important as in parts of Malaysia, it is illegal to leave Islam after a relatively young age, certainly too young to make an intelligent choice what religion you wish to be for life.
It really seems that in practice, Islam is passed on through parents just like any other religion. And the risks of punishment for leaving the faith reinforces this idea.
Incidentally, I do agree with you that her message is strictly for a non-Muslim crowd.
tina // February 6, 2007 at 11:16 pm |
“Islam is not Catholicism or Hinduism which have similar belief regarding birth and faith.”
how do hinduism and catholocism have similar beliefs regarding birth and faith? One is polytheistic, the other monotheistic. I’m not trying to be annoying or anything. I’m just generally curious as to why you think that. If anything I would think that catholicism/christianity would have more in common with islam. Just because you are born into a catholic, orthodox, or whatever christian family doesn’t make you christian. You have to choose to become one. Which, is apparently the case with Islam as well. Which I also did not know by the way. I thought if your parents were muslim that automatically made you one as well. You learn something knew everyday:)
Okay, i’m gonna go now. Sorry about my rambling post:)
tina // February 6, 2007 at 11:19 pm |
I have one more question, that I am slightly confused about. Umar you mentioned that even if you are born into a muslim family, if you do not believe you are not muslim. So if an indivdual born into a saudi family does not believe in Islam and all its tenants then he/she would technically not be a muslim. So if a person does not believe to begin with and they convert to a different religion why are they considered to be apostates? They are technically not apostating from anything because they never were muslim to begin with.
Okay, that is offically the end of my questions:)
Thankyou
DA // February 6, 2007 at 11:43 pm |
Tina,
There are monotheistic schools of Hindu thought (though they do not comprise the majority). My mom is a Catholic and while you could say they are monothetistic in a larger historical sense, there is still definitely some shirk there; not only with Issa (pbuh) and Maryam (ra) but with Saints and, in the case of many Latin catholics, Orixas and shit like that. However, in my experience you are more correct than Umar on that point, I know people who are considered “Catholics” who don’t go to church but not open atheists, and their kids generally aren’t classified as Catholic. With Hindu it’s as much an ethno-linguistic designation as a religious one, so the similarity to Judaism is there. There are even “impersonalist” Hindus who observe religious Hinduism as an atheistic faith. Sounds cray but it’s true.
As to apostacy, no, if a kid with Muslim parents does not choose Islam on his coming of age and then chooses another religion, I think all credible schools of thought consider him a nonbeliever but not apostate.
Jordan:
Any idea what age the law says in Malaysia?
Safia,
It’s funny that a lot of her western readers are going to have to ignore the Catholocism comparison to naziism. The same way Ibn Waraq’s fans have to often ignore that he’s hostile to all religions, or Irshad Manji’s culturally conservative fans have to ignore that she’s a lesbian.
qawukzi // February 6, 2007 at 11:57 pm |
Islam is not based on lineage as I feel closer to Umar, Tariq, or Abu Noor than to many people who were born in a Muslim family, carry an Arabic or Persian surname but do not practice or believe. The “punishment” for apostasy is a different issue, and its interpretation is certainly not the same and uniform as some would beleive. For example, see CAIR’s stand (suppported by a section of the American Islamic scholars) on the Abdul Rahman case. Regardless, even if I were to agree hypothetically that the apostate rulings are valid and authentic, that still does not mean that the “apostate” in question is a Muslim. My understanding of the punishment of an “apostate” is on the lines of high treason, and as such is a political/state crime involving deception and public harm, and not a personal choice.
Tina, I am not familiar with the details in Catholicism, but Hinduism does have an “identity” sort of understanding and one’s birth determines much about caste purity and the like. Incidentally, I too think Christianity would have a similar understanding of faith as Islam.
Abu Noor al-Irlandee // February 7, 2007 at 12:17 am |
As salaamu ‘alaykum Umar,
Yeah, could you clarify what you mean when you talk about Catholicism. Sure I understand that a lot of people who are “Catholic” may not agree with everything the church teaches and at least here in the U.S. today many may not even go to church but they would still consider themselves Catholic.
But that is true for many Muslims who are very ignorant about or do not truly practice their faith.
Still, someone who consciously states that they do not believe is obviously not a Muslim. Isn’t the same true for Catholicism? I was born to a Catholic mother and a Catholic father, but obviously I don’t consider myself a Catholic and I don’t think anyone else would either. (Maybe if I was in Belfast they would, but that’s a different issue :) )
In any event, I agree a million percent with the point you make about Ms. Ali (I actually wish she would change her name) although I agree with Abu Sinan in that outside of some Zionists, I don’t see too much love for these apostates on the liberal/left side, its basically from the right. Although you are correct, there should be a certain appeal for extremely secular people of either the right or left in her nonsense.
Abu Noor al-Irlandee // February 7, 2007 at 12:21 am |
I also agree that the word ‘infidel’ is a bad translation for kaffir.
I mean bad in the sense that no one that I know uses the word as anything other than a translation of kaffir. I don’t hear any Christians who regard other Christians as disbelievers calling each other infidel. Maybe in the past they did, but not today. “Disbeliever” is the most accurate word that people actually might understand although people probably don’t use that a lot in ordinary speech either. It seems like Cleary in his translation of the Qur’an at least some of the time uses the word “atheist” which is not really correct either.
Allaah knows best.
bikhair // February 7, 2007 at 1:52 am |
Abu Noor,
Not only that but the word infidel is the opposite of the word fidelity or more precisely fidelity or loyalty to the faith, and it wasnt the Islamic faith. These mideval Christians really need to get hip to their own religious and cultural history. In fact it were heretical christians and Muslims who were the infidels at one time.
Amad // February 7, 2007 at 2:10 am |
Infidel is a loaded word… it is always used by those who want to rouse up the audience with anti-Muslim sentiments. Interestingly, it really doesn’t mean much different (in meaning, not in root) from disbeliever or kafir or non-Muslim. And Christians, esp. the evangelist-kind absolutely consider Muslims to be infidels as well.
But, precisely for the first line and for the reasons other brothers have mentioned already, the word should be dropped out of our dictionary. Though, I think it already has, kinda, and you only hear it from the bashers now??
Cheesy White Boy // February 7, 2007 at 6:29 am |
I’ve never been impressed by Hirsi Ali, theres dishonesty written all over her face. The term “infidel” seems to be have become a self-promoting device for these people. Am I right in assuming that kafir means “nonbeliever”? I don’t see what the big deal is…
Leila // February 7, 2007 at 11:07 am |
The woman is a joke, she just wants to be famous, after failing to be a fashion model, the other option is to join a right wing party and ofcourse being female, black and muslim she is the favourite candidate. She is an example of how far people would go to be famous.
Umar Lee // February 7, 2007 at 3:28 pm |
Tina,
Catholics, along with some Protestant denominations, practice child baptism in which as an infant you are baptized into the church and will be confirmed at a later date usually around puberty. Catholicism is also deeply ingrained into many cultures in which being a Catholic is almost like an ethnic identity and has little to do with your belief and more to do with where you will get married and where you will be married.
Hinduism with castes and other beliefs assign relevance to people at birth based on their lineage.
A Muslim born into a Muslim family is a Muslim as they are born into the fitrah and are raised praying in which they say the shahadah; but if they cease to believe in Islam, or openly proclaim their disbelief as Ayaan does, then that person is no longer a Muslim.
Khairun Nisa // February 7, 2007 at 4:10 pm |
Assalamu Alaikum
I watched the interview of Ayaan Hirsi Ali on BBC world. Stephen Sackur asked her if she believed in God. She said she is an atheist. I agree with Abu Sinan. She is in the group of Irshad Manji , Asra Nomani, Khaleel Mohammed..etc..
Abu Noor al-Irlandee // February 7, 2007 at 6:44 pm |
As salaamu ‘alaykum Khairun-Nisa,
You make a good point regarding Ms. Ali, she is self-proclaimed to not be a Muslim so anyone calling her one is being ridiculous.
While I agree that she and the others you mentioned share some characteristics in the way they present themselves and certainly in the people who support them, at least Nomani and Mohammed still do claim to be believers in Islam (although they may have beliefs I find extremely problematic) and I don’t think it is our position to imply they are not Muslims by lumping them in with people like Ali.
(I do not know if Ms. Manji claims to be a believer in Islam or not, I can’t really tell from what I’ve read about her, although she doesn’t explicitly say she is not Muslim like Ali does as far as I can tell and does at times identify herself with Islam — although apparently her Islam is different in every way from what all Muslims in the past actually thought Islam was)
Allaahu Alam.
thabet // February 7, 2007 at 6:58 pm |
How do right-wing, so-called “conservative”, Americans take to Hirsi WhatsHerFaceName’s views on gay marriage and euthanasia? Do they know she is a European Liberal?
Or is theirs a marriage of convenience (i.e. attack Islam), as she does more openly in a recent interview with the anti-Muslim newspaper, the (London) Evening Standard.
Jamerican Muslimah // February 8, 2007 at 2:44 am |
I believe Ayaan Hirsi Ali is nothing more than opportunist. Aside from the many holes in arguments like the misintepretation of Quran, Hadith and Islamic history. The problem I have with her is that much of her criticism of Muslims comes from the view of immigrant (from a ‘Muslim country’) looking back into her homeland and identifying the problems in that society. She concludes that these problems stem from Islam.
Yet, she doesn’t seem to know what to do with Muslims like myself who come from “the West” and converted to Islam. In fact, there is no acknowledgement of us at all. (I believe because our very existence serves to undermine her arguments).
It’s also interesting how she so easily lets the West off the hook and blames Muslims for their own circumstances. What about the effects of colonalism, racism, imperalism etc. not only on those in so-called Muslim countries but of people of color globally?
OmarG // February 8, 2007 at 3:11 am |
I, too, heard her interview on NPR. I was pretty disappointed that because of the social problems of her homeland, she decided to leave Islam and disbeleive in God, the hereafter and so forth. Instead, she could have found that these social problems are not because of Islam and fought to reclaim it from the cultural Muslims. Instead, she became a cultural Muslim herself.
Now, I also thought that we need to face reality and see that such problems DO cause people to diseleive when perhaps they might not have if they had better lives. So, even though she does not beleive, it does not mean we can simply ignore the very real problems she experienced. Also, just saying the ultra-simplistic motto “If we followed the din, these social problems wouldn’t exist” is partially true, but is often used as a cop-out! The ethics and morality we must get from the Quran and our acts of worship are only the beginning! After that, we still have to use our brains to solve the problems after Islam has put our souls in the mood to address the problems in the first place. Simply following to the letter all of Ibn Taymiyya’s books won’t benefit a person more than a solid education can.
Who is better to solve poverty: an beleiving Western Muslim economist who can tackle it from the national level or the beleiver like Abdul Sattar Edhi who does great good on a personal level? Both. Both have thier roles, so let’s remember that Western knowledge plays the role of helping us work smarter while our Islamic knowledge lets us know that a good person will use this scientific advances for good purposes and not for selfish gain or the destruction of others. They do not exclude the other.
DrM // February 8, 2007 at 4:17 am |
Predictable and dull is how I would describe Hirsi. She now works for the American Enterprise Institute which is a pro-terrorist organization, what does that tell you? Hirsi Magan and omarg are flip sides of the same coin.
DA // February 8, 2007 at 5:20 am |
You and Louis Farrakhan whould get along pretty too, DrM.
Dariush // February 8, 2007 at 7:14 am |
Thank you, DrM, for pointing out that AEI has rolled out the red carpet for Hirsi Ali.
Hirsi Ali, Fouad Ajamai, Kabbani, Irshad Manji, “Ibn Warraq”…. so many “brave” “truthtellers” … so well compensated.
Shaitan is nothing if not generous to his servants.
Great blog, btw.
Anon // February 8, 2007 at 10:47 am |
” her only claim to Islam is that she was born into a Somali Muslim family”
As far as many muslims are concerned that’s enough to justify killing her fior the “treason” of apostasy.
Leila // February 8, 2007 at 12:20 pm |
Omar G, what social problems in her country did Ayan Hirsi encounter to leave the religion? According to her, 9/11 made her question her beliefs and as a subsequence become an atheist, whilst in Kenya she joined Muslim brotherhood.
muslim_gal // February 8, 2007 at 3:48 pm |
No offense brother Omar G, but this woman didnt have some hard knock life and was neither oppressed by somali culture. She grew up in a rich, somali family who had connections in somali goverment. She went to the best private schools in Kenya and had all the things she wanted. I wouldnt believe too much on what she says about her family because i have friends who know her family (her father and siblings lives in london, U.K) and the woman is chatting shit. She’s still gets in contact with her family and her ex husband who she was apperantly forced into a marriage with. A documentary was also brocasted in holland exposed her bullshit lies including the one that she was forced into marriage because her ex was still visiting her when she was in a refuguee camp in holland and they were pretty cosy even back then.
The only thing she has truthfully said is that she had FGM and if you know anything about that, many of the time, it is usually done at the behest of extended familes. Theres many women who had it done due to their grandmothers or aunts even when the parents had refused (and it was done secretly behind their backs!). And as a somali women i can say that many women in our country for generations went through that- so shes not the only one. There are many somali sisters who alhmdualiah done alot to raise the issue of this unsialmic practise of FGM in somalia and the west and end it through political and social means as well as educate women about it. What the fuck has she done except bitch and whine about it to white middle class men of western society? Nothing. Has she contriubuted in any way to help the delvelpoment and betterment of her fellow somali sisters? No. Has she helped somali women to end this practise in somalia or elsewhere? No and no-one would stop her had she tried as many sisters have been for years trying to stop it and alhmdualah due to THEIR efforts, the practise has decreased and women are now more educated and informed about the social and medical aspects of this practise as well as the islamic viewpoint on FGM in somalia. She had plenty of chances as well when she was in Holland to interact with the somali muslims there as there is a large somali community there but she never assocatied with her people (or other muslims), unless she had to for work reasons. Infact, the only thing she did say to her somali sisters and other muslims sisters in holland when she used to meet up with them, was for them to remove their hijabs and jilbabs and bascially just ditch being practsing muslims and they told her where to go. lol.
She’s nothing more then a media whore and it prosutited herself to the white middle classes in holland and appealed to their xenophobia (they’re not as tolerant and peaceful as they claim believe me!), which is why she got as far as she did. You think they’d accept a black ‘muslim’ women otherwise? No.
I agree that there are social issues within our muslim communties that need to be tackled and addressed, like drugs, abuse, poverty etc.. and alhmdualiah there are people who do that and get no regconision for it. They dont stand up and say: “hey look at me”. They do what they can and dedicate their time and effort into helping others- and dont seek financial rewards or social status for it.
Dont be fooled or feel sorry for Ms Hersi, Magdan or whatever shes calls herself! She’s a class A liar and theres only one side of her that the media show- the one which she has constructed. She never apostaed because of her family or cultural upbringing or hardship. She left islam because she wanted to and being an ex-muslim gives you alot of populaity, wealth and fame in todays society, especially if you play on it to the right audiences.
Cheesy White Boy // February 8, 2007 at 10:44 pm |
I really don’t understand whats the hype about this woman. She has been discredited. Anon, death threats hardly go one way, people from your end of the political spectrum are far more likely to issue and carry out such calls. Getting death threats hardly makes ones view credible.
I strongly condemn the murder of Theo Van Gogh, but the guy was a racist asshole who won’t be missed. Ayaan too, will fade away with time.
OmarG // February 9, 2007 at 3:17 am |
>>Omar G, what social problems in her country did Ayan Hirsi encounter to leave the religion?
I think getting one’s clitoris carved out of one’s body qualifies…
muslim_gal // February 9, 2007 at 6:43 am |
well if that was the case Omar, how comes the majority of somali women over the last decades havent left the deen? simply cos they know it aint got nothing to do with islam, so they dont hold it against allah s.w.t and his messenger for what some foolish people do. They dont refer to the prophet s.a.w as a terriost or paedo like she did, cos they had the clit slit done. They aint nothing that she gone through that justifies her bullshit attack on the deen, our nabi and allah s.w.t. No point definding her cos come akriah, if she aint repented, shes only heading to one place and no muslim is gonna defend her ass from the hell fire.
Anon // February 9, 2007 at 12:27 pm |
You don’t know my end of the political spectrum, cheesy white boy. You probably flatter yourself with that name. However people from your end of the psychological spectrum are all-purpose arseholes whose death would improve the world. The fact remains, many muslims think that people who cease to be muslims or who were raised in muslim families but don’t believe should be killed.
ayan // February 9, 2007 at 3:42 pm |
Just as a note, muslim_gal, you might want to refrain from swearing extensively in the same sentence as you mention the Prophet (peace be upon him) and Allah.
muslim_gal // February 9, 2007 at 6:12 pm |
ayan
yea your right. thanks :)
JDsg // February 10, 2007 at 5:08 am |
“Mental illness, abortion, failed marriages, illicit affairs and differing interpretations of religion: much as she tries, the kind of problems that Ms Hirsi Ali describes in “Infidel” are all too human to be blamed entirely on Islam. Her book shows that her life, like those of other Muslims, is more complex than many people in the West may have realised. But the West’s tendency to seek simplistic explanations is a weakness that Ms Hirsi Ali also shows she has been happy to exploit.”
— The Economist
Mohamed // February 10, 2007 at 6:28 am |
Actually the West will not care about her as much as you all think since she has no influence in the Muslim world but rather is a turn off.
Cheesy White Boy // February 14, 2007 at 12:45 pm |
Anon, spare me your silly death threats, and yes, I know very well which end of the political spectrum you hang from. I doubt you give a shit about Ayan other then use her as a prop in your personal vendetta against Muslims. As far as I’m concerned, she’s a proven liar profiting from other peoples misery and deserves no sympathy.
Seriously though, you’re trying a little too hard given that there are lots of idiots, many of whom are non-Muslim who engage in death threats and murder, of which you’re a prime example. Its safe to say society would benefit from your sterilization. Preferably forced.
Hamzeh Mtz // February 18, 2007 at 8:53 pm |
Salaam 3laykum all. Last night I saw a CSPANN interview with that poor, ape-like creature and I came to a conclusion that the woman is a genius. In the donyawi sense anyway. A good public speaker and deftly articulate, just as Omar says, she has mastered the game and will laugh all the way to the bank. I agree with everyone’s post, the woman is confused, her arguments are flimsy, she’s a recorded liar and capitalizing on the moment. Of course, she’ll be crispy come akhirah if she doesn’t take the necessary steps and all of that. But my post is mostly to tell my fellow Muslims that we’d do better to not underestimate the folks that hate us, and instead study their arguments and their lives in order to better refute their positions when the attacks come, which they surely will.
This is my first post. Omar, great website and great work, I already love your brother. Allah guide and help us all.
Salaam
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Abdul Hayiy // March 31, 2008 at 10:41 am |
Assalamu’alaikum warahmatullaah
Well,to Hirzi Ali is this: “You haven’t research how books of non Muslim are all telling them to be that of Pagan,Infidel,Adulterers. It is because of the dominion that they wanted,exclude from people of Islam,because they have enemies. And they did change the scriptures for pleasing the ruler. By giving what the ruler wanted,they obtain the power to overthrow the status quo,but before that,they cast the people who are really loyal to Allah Tabaraka Ta’ala’s book first. See the fate of Gospel of Nazorean which a lot of its fragments vanish. Look at Islamic Fragments 1 & 2 and Gospel of Nazorean at The Order Of Nazorean Essenes,inside Study
da end of da world is neAR // June 25, 2009 at 2:15 am |
Asalamu’alaikum my brothers and sisters in islam i love you all for the sake of allah
and may allah guide us to the right path and give us abudance in knowledge.
As the stupid ignorant person and the knowlageable person are not same.
I can believe all this a somali women on the edge, here for to let the dogs win the day.
to speak about our beloved profit mohamed (s.a w) in such a way is degraceful and to speak aboy muslim in such away subhanallah
oh, Allah !, little does she no she has thrown a bone to the enemies of islam. To ask for for forgiveness is rediculuos.
For she is at end “laughing at the bank waiting for her pay check” little, little but does she no, no morals and no conduct whatsoever. ANNOUNCE PAINFUL PUNISHMENT TO THOSE WHO DISBELIEVE (9:3)evil and vicious women
laughing while the same people she works for are killing millions of innocent people.
And mentioning 9/11 what does that have anything to do with her if so she had believe before. And FGM where has she read from the quran that it was even prohibited. Then actually saying she doesnt agree with the quran and the protits saying. As for that i believe she didnt even know anything about nor its translation. As i have heard from so called muslim “there is no where in the quran that states that women should wear the hijab or act modestly” read the translation of the quran in the language you understand to speak and check surat ar-nur verse 59 and i think it were surat ul ahqaf one of the verse and even the hadiths and you will find proof in dressing modestly and wearing the hijab.
the for her to quote about nazies, hitler was crazy and racist, he killed jews, muslims,blacks, hindus, budist, freaks animals christian is family and men and women and would probably kill his relex if he couldnt find the missing button. He gave
cyanide pills to hes kids blah blah blah and killed them. While kill at the same time to who listen to jaz music and so on.And for her to pertray this example what is to say about her level of intellect. Learnig four english words five American dollars to trade for what allah ‘azwajal’ refered to as the big bathroom. Befeore she was a model now she a donkey on feet laughing for the crowde not knowinh there laughing back twice as hard. For to insult muslim and them if her dough for it and still they have a disease in there heart the secretive dark innter hatred they have for her wich they paint it with a smile so that they can erase many muslim smile, while she thinks she liberating and they pretend and laugh with as they hope for us muslim to loose our highly epensive treasure and honour as to so you can no longer distinguish between the animal and the human. AS they do call humans the “social animals” how disgusting. And a whole website about infidels are call because of the she- animal
who walks hollywood.And her parents subhanallah, where are here parents when there little girl is appling on lipstick and giving the media a toss.They should of been giving her a hard spank on the ass.
lucky for her as fore here in yown ul qiyam
she got no share in yown ul qiyam as she has sold her slef (chracter, model) to the dogs. AS the heat will be 7000 degrease
completely and utterly hot. and her enteratinment will be a poisionous air and hot poisionous water(zaqum)
Ayan hersi who ever you are if i knew you i would love to give you more than one word of advice, to degrace us muslim women like that. And you look even uglier in my eyes for what you said. wallahi i hope for you to repent for the is no way out. dont be amoung them on judgement day that say ” mu wealth and children didnt avail me”
they laugh for you but in there heart is a disease they wait for your destruction, if they really care about liberation why are women and men competing one another in jobs, socila class living.you have degrade your self. and wallahi if nobody is say “yac”
and giving you a good mind shaking slap and telling you to wake up and smell the cofee before some should send hilter to take you with to a gas chamber then i dont no.
salam!