The greatest weapon in the hand of the Muslim Ummah is the womb of the Muslim mother. That is why so many fear the high birth-rates of Muslims and why the West seeks to spread International Planned Parenthood, abortion and birth control into the Muslim World. This is pushed by Western liberals, you know the people all the young Muslims are in love with, but the Right seeks a different method of battle.
So, all my Muslim brothers and sisters reading this, I encourage you all to have lots of babies and as the Prophet Muhammad ( s.a.s.) told us “increase”. Brothers know that Allah will provide and don’t worry about what kind of a job you got just work hard and sisters know there is no article you can write and no job title you can hold that will be equal to giving birth to a Muslim child.( I gave a talk like this a the aqeeqa for my daughter and a brother told me ” hey, I really liked your go home and have sex with your wife speech”…but those aren’t exactly the words he used.
Listen to the fears of the kufar and let us make duah we can make their nightmare scenario come true. The only chance they have to defeat the Muslims is not by bombing us and invading Muslim lands; but in using progressives and so-called moderates to water down the religion and changing our culture of having a lot of children and holding on to the Sunnah. The father of my wife had 13 Muslim children. My dear brother Jabril has 14 children and my dear brother Abu Hudhafya has I think 11. I pray to Allah I am blessed with as many children as them who help to change the Secular Humanist-Capitalist World Order and create a Muslim World Order.
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Robert // May 19, 2009 at 2:56 pm |
Based on your viewpoint, I am sure you will be understanding when western “Secular Humanist-Capitalist” try to limit Muslim immigration to prevent Islamic conquest from succeeding.
Or would that be Islamophobic?
Also, who exactly will pay for all these children’s education and well being? It seems that you are advocating for Muslims to be as big of burden on society as possible.
jamal // May 19, 2009 at 4:36 pm |
Insha ‘Allah Islam will dominate America and Europe. This propaganda is propagated throughout America and Europe. By God will this is going to happen.
“The greatest weapon in the hand of the Muslim Ummah is the womb of the Muslim mother.”
Rizq is from Allah so have more children and raise them with Islam.
George Carty // May 19, 2009 at 8:22 pm |
Could Western middle-class “liberals” fear Muslim birth rates not just because they are hostile to religion, but also because they believe the Earth is overpopulated (this section of society is where most environmentalists are)?
One of my fears is that an unholy alliance in favour of genocide of Muslims will be forged between Islamophobes (motivation obvious) and Malthusian environmentalists (who believe that they are more likely to get away with exterminating the Muslim Ummah than with exterminating any other comparably-sized portion of humanity).
Jamal // May 19, 2009 at 8:22 pm |
Islam will one day dominate the world.
one of the major signs of the end of time is that Islam will dominate Rome
eliza // May 20, 2009 at 5:21 am |
“They’re breeding like rats” is an old cannard that used to be applied to Catholics.
There already is an established Muslim World Order in several countries. Go live there and enjoy the full sadismo of the Grand Islamodrama.
It is remarkable, the hold that utopianism can have over some.
Robert // May 20, 2009 at 6:26 pm |
Umar Lee, would you have any suggestions for non-Muslims on how to avoid Islamic conquest through the womb?
And if your plan does come to fruition, and I suspect it will, won’t you miss all the innovations and comforts that come from a scientifically literate secular West?
Abdurrahman Gemei // May 20, 2009 at 7:28 pm |
Islam FTW! Although those numbers are exaggerated, but to some extend it is true. I am really positive about this due to naturally being loyal to my religion, but we must also understand the negative effects of this with logic.
The population of the world is climbing at a very, very fast rate. Resources are limited and it will be difficult for many to survive. I’ll leave the thinking to you.
Also, if you can get 14 kids, raise them and teach them all, then you must be superman. I think you would be better off with less children, and they will actually get the attention they need and grow up with better knowledge of Islam and sciences.
I will tell you one thing. We do not need huge numbers. We need the caliphate system back.
Going fully with the Shari’a, a perfect society is very probable. Remember Islam in its golden age, Islamic Spain and the rest of the Ummah with all our great inventions and bases for today’s sciences the Americans boast.
With strong faith in Allah, we shall prevail!
eliza // May 20, 2009 at 8:50 pm |
Gemei, there is no such thing and there never has been any such thing as a perfect society. Do the states now using sharia exhibit any perfections?
Historically, utopian schemes and theocracies are a dead hand on humanity. They squash invention, thinking, justice, even the arts.
Muslims also have been successfully thrown out of the West repeatedly even in parts they dominated for centuries. I personally think that muslims have too many severe interior conflicts to dominate everybody.
Communism used to be the perfect solution. Especially in the Universities, it was considered above criticism.
In my opinion the people really breeding like rats are the Mormons. They also generally handle their conflicts much better than muslims, so watch out everybody!
Jamal // May 22, 2009 at 11:28 pm |
Those who do not breed are the real rats. We should breed like Humans by having lots of children. Don’t see parenthood as a burden, but a gift from Allah.
Abdallah // May 21, 2009 at 8:25 am |
I am married to a Palestinian woman, born in Jerusalem, whose family has gone back and forth between the US and Palestine. All of her relatives have many children and not a one is a devout Muslim. We will see how many of your children and your relatives’ children remain in Islam as an adult and then we can make some claim as to the difference so many children make.
Hind // May 22, 2009 at 11:36 am |
Hmmm, did your wife’s father have all those children with the same wife? I highly doubt it. It sounds to me like you’re advocating polygamy. La samah Allah.
Sincerity! // May 22, 2009 at 4:03 pm |
Its not the quantity which matters rather the Quality..have one of two kids, but make them the torch bearers of Ummah..
Umar Lee aka/ Double H // May 22, 2009 at 5:58 pm |
Sincerity,
Limiting the amount of children like that is an imitation of the kufar and below replenishment rates and bad for society.
Hind,
Yes he had two wives mashaAllah.
Sabir // May 23, 2009 at 8:40 am |
I understand your point, but I would tend to agree that an over-emphasis on procreation without regard to quality is unwise. Because of the population explosion and the gradual death of the agrarian lifestyle, life has become much more fast-paced and difficult in modern times than it was hundreds of years ago. Back in the day, working 40 hours a week was considered ridiculous. Now, it’s the norm (and increasingly becoming the minimum). People who would have done just fine raising eight kids centuries ago are now barely scraping by or raising kids that turn out to be hooligans. In addition, children are now exposed to negative influences in ways that were inconceivable before. There was no TV, pop music, or internet in medieval times. People educated their children themselves or sent them to learn from private teachers, not massive jailhouse-like schools for six hours with hundreds of other kids. Paradoxically, all of these developments over the past two hundred years or so have made it more important yet more difficult to spend time with your children.
Now I agree that vowing not to have kids or limiting the number of kids you plan to have to an arbitrary number irrespective of your circumstances runs counter to our values (and yeah, most of the people who do that are rich globo yuppie liberals, to borrow a term from your phrasebook ;-) ). But I wouldn’t fault people for seeking to have only as many kids as their means allow. We’re not Catholics; birth control is halal, and there is hikmah in that.
Umm Hussain // May 23, 2009 at 2:55 am |
The number of children a couple decide to have, with the blessings and permission of Allah, should be determined by the couple, not their friends, family and certainly not someone living in a dream world who will never have to care for them financially, spiritually or emotionally. It is so easy to tell others what they need to do and never be accountable for the information you provide or the result of that person’s behavior. Many couples plan the birth of their children so that the mother will not be physically burdened and both parents will not be financially strapped. There is nothing in the sunna contradicting this and having a lot of children is no guarantee that you will add to the Ummah. Regrettably, the end product may be someone who writes articles like the one written here. This article reflects what I refer to as the “flying carpet” mentality and has extremely little substance to support it other than one person’s opinion about how many children I or any other woman should have. I find it so sad that a man is pushing “have a lot of babies” and don’t worry about how you will pay for the bills. And what exactly is a Muslim World Order? I pray that the likes of the one who wrote this article will not be in any decision-making positions. You are fanning the flames of hatred which is unIslamic by encouraging the fears of the kufar coming true to paraphrase your article. Most non-Muslims are ignorant of Islam (along with many, many Muslims) and their fear is based on 9/11, suicide bombers and the media reporting on the bad behavior of Muslims. As I tell my own three children “If you do good, no one can report that you did bad.”
Sorry, but this article was bad.
Umm Hussain // May 23, 2009 at 3:05 am |
I must add that very few people “fear” Muslim mothers. Most people in this society respect Muslim women, even if they may not agree with our iman. This article is so full of rhetoric in a sad attempt to encourage women to have more babies, as if that solved our problems in the 60’s, 70’s and 80’s. Maybe if the numerous men who practice serial monagamy made a sincere effort to marry and stay married to one woman, our Ummah, particularly in the US would be a lot stronger, our children would be more mentally and emotionally whole. Perhaps I should submit an article Fear of the (Irresponsible) Muslim Husband. The only problem is that it is not the non-Muslims who fear that group, but the women, daughters and responsible brothers who have been subject to their fitna far too often. And we all are familiar with the mess they leave behind (unpaid mahr, tears, pain, bills, the list goes on).
Sabir // May 23, 2009 at 9:41 am |
To be fair, Umar is right that procreation is encouraged in Islam, and the high population growth rates in Muslim countries are an important factor in the Muslim World’s revival. By the theory of critical mass, when a people’s population begins to exceed that of all others by a threshold margin, they are bound to assume a dominant position over their adversaries. The Palestinians are a case in point: because of their growth rate, the total population of Arabs in the West Bank, Gaza, and Israel proper will substantially exceed that of the Jews within a few decades. Israel’s leaders know this and it scares them to death. Countries that are built upon the systematic oppression of a people don’t last long, especially when that people begin to comprise a significant majority.
I just think Muslims should exercise wisdom in going about procreating. Not every Muslim man should seek to have a double-digit number of children; some people have circumstances that make it unwise. And it’s harder to raise good kids now than it was before. But we have to be wary of absorbing anti-family attitudes that have taken root in parts of Europe and Russia, where getting married and having children is viewed as antiquated or backward. That kind of thinking is not from the Sunnah.
Dan // May 23, 2009 at 2:52 pm
Sabir, keep in mind that Iran, a country governed under Islamic law, has implemented one of the most successful family planning policies that allowed themselves to reduce their population growth rate successfully, and guess what? The family planning policy is encouraged by clerics themselves.
I know you make your point in the second paragraph so I won’t be quick to jump to conclusions. I just want to disagree with your assertion that it is some part of Muslim World Order.
“The Palestinians are a case in point: because of their growth rate, the total population of Arabs in the West Bank, Gaza, and Israel proper will substantially exceed that of the Jews within a few decades.”
Actually, the only reason Palestinian Muslims have higher birth rates is due to the economic condition they are in. Palestinian Christians do not have such a high birth rate and are thus seen as under threat of their population. No one wants to see a Bethlehem without Christians, do you?
Just compare the growth rates of many Muslim countries from the past to now, because like it or not, it is a declining trend and it will continue to do so. Having more children is not the key to a Muslim revival, especially when Muslim countries continue to languish as third world nations. Was a higher population growth rate the key to ensuring the success of Islam in Spain? I think not.
Dan // May 23, 2009 at 3:07 am |
“Limiting the amount of children like that is an imitation of the kufar and below replenishment rates and bad for society. ”
Dude Umar, if you think having 10-20 kids is good for society, why don’t you go see how those Muslim countries who have high fertility rates are still poor and illiterate? Pakistan isn’t exactly a beacon of wealth both Islamically and economically, despite having high fertility rates.
Like it or not, the trend even in Muslim countries is towards fewer children, and it is not an imitation of the kuffar because that’s so absurd it’s laughable. Does driving a car not count as imitating the kuffar? Does using a computer not count as imitating the kuffar? Come on bro, I like you man but dang, I can’t agree with you on this.
I’m with everyone else here who believes that quality, NOT quantity, matters more. Because even if we are the majority, don’t expect the rest of the world to respect us if 95% of the Muslim world reside in mud huts.
Also, didn’t you make another post about welfare and how its haram? How do you reconcile that view with this post?
Sincerity! // May 23, 2009 at 3:28 am |
^^ Huh, so lets assume a couple decides to have 5-6 kids, with a mother who is a home maker and father has a blue collar job. Obviously father will be busy making money and mother will be busy cooking , cleaning etc.
My question is, who is going to teach Islam to kids? Who is going to be there to educate them? How will they survive public schools and still remain firm on Islam?
If we are to preserve our Deen and pass it on to our kids, then we have to invest time on our kids and I am not sure how we can do that if father is working his butt off to provide food on table and mother is exhausted running after 6 kids.
Sincerity! // May 23, 2009 at 3:29 am |
Indeed Allah swt is Ar-Razzaq, but we are still commanded to tie our camel.
Umar Lee aka/ Double H // May 23, 2009 at 5:13 am |
Sicnerity,
You will find that the social problems we have in America exploded when the women left the home and that is pretty obvious to anyone not wearing ideological blinders. As for public schools I would never send a child of mine to a public school. Not even for one day.
Dan,
There are a lot of trends. Defaulting on your mortgage, living beyond your means, gay marriage, abandonment of children, acceptance of lewd behavior, drug usage,e tc. Do you seek to follow all of them just to be modern? The trend to have less kids is a bad trend and what is Islamic is in the Quran and Sunnah not based on what is the norm in any Muslim country.
Their are not hadith peculiar to driving a car. there is plenty in the hadith and the words of the scholars regarding having children. Of course, maybe you want to prefer a UN Study or something you read at college.
I could care less who agrees with me. In general, the more people are on the sunnah, the more kids they will have, and the more they are on some BS the fewer they will have.
Umm Hussain,
Go visit Gloria Steinhams blog, maybe you will like that better. If you do not know what a Muslim World Order is then you need to study the Sunnah, the hsitory of he Salaf, and the khulfah.
Umm Hussain // May 23, 2009 at 6:28 pm |
Brother Umar Lee, there is no need to resort to subliminal name calling. I do believe the Prophet Muhammad (saws) was one of the first leaders in history to advance womens’ rights and if that is what you are referring to by your reference to Ms. Steinem, then perhaps it is you who should study the Sunnah and true Islam history. Umm Ayman, who you probably know nothing about, is one of the dearest of the Sahabah that I pattern my life after. Being a free woman, speaking on behalf of my self, my family and my community and earning a living are privileges that my Creator has bestowed on me and every Muslim regardless of sex. And quite Islamic. There is nothing unIslamic about a woman working, speaking and writing against ignorance and hatred and advancing the cause of those who disenfranchised.
After reading just a few additional rants of yours on this one topic, I believe many writers like myself are not in a dialogue with someone who is well-read or well-spoken, but rather someone who to quote you simply “could care less who agrees” with you even when you are wrong. Sorry, brother, you can not have it both ways. Don’t broadcast ridiculous personal views publicly and name call when others express their dismay at your limited knowledge, sexual bias and all around everyday basic ignorance. Your comments are offensive and riddled with a hatred for anyone who lives a so-called “middle class” life, as if there is something wrong with that.
Perhaps if I had signed my original reply as Abu Hussain I doubt you would have been so ridiculous in your reply.
This site, the “street” attitude, kufar this, kufar that rantings, the constant references against what “Double H” perceives as middle class, need I go on and on … is another reason why many children distance themselves from the Ummah. It seems that if you can’t make it yourself, look down on those who achieve some level of personal success, cast aspersions about their sincerity or knowledge of Islam and name call.
Being Muslim does not mean having a lot of babies, being poor and working from can to can’t. For those of you who visit this site and may be reading for information, there are so many examples of human excellence in medicine, science, architecture, literature, and social work to name a few areas that Muslim women and men have contributed to in the 20th and 21st century. This site is certainly not a springboard for those who want something in life other than to complain about those who do that in a well structured website. Be true to Allah and His Prophet, study/work hard and stay away from the haters and those who want to keep you in box they have cornered themselves in.
People, is this person Umar Lee who he says he is or his he another agent provacateur spewing hated, harvesting our comments and databasing e-mail addresses for the feds, the government or some other alphabet soup agency?
Umar Lee aka/ Double H // May 23, 2009 at 9:13 am |
Oh, and one more thing Dan. I live simple and I have always lived that way. Maybe when I was single I liked to dress and travel a little bit; but I live a very inexpensive lifestyle and consume far less than these jet-setting environmentalist yuppies.
I could get welfare; but I don’t. I have seen too many families and people I know and grew up with who were robbed of any dignity and ambition by welfare and stood in school bus lines with 14 year old girls who said they couldn’t wait to get on welfare.
Now, I do believe that there should be welfare and a safety net, I’m just saying it should not be a way of life and a career choice. I know women with one kid drowning in debt on welfare while people at their job have 5 kids and are making the same amount of money and doing fine so I have learn to do more with less.
Currently, I am taking care of my children, and others people children they choose not to take care, as well as helping to care for other children in my family, and all of this on the wages of a cabbie and freelance writer. Other brothers I know, like a dear elder of mine named Kareem, had 17 children by two wives, and his children never did without because he grinded just like I do.
I could get section 8 but I chose to save and get a house. Is it a mansion? No, it is in an area with the average home price of 26,000 with working-class people and maybe not good enough to satisfy the Hindu-minded Muslims who are so class conscious that they are horrified when someone does not have a Hindu mentality towards class and actually does not worship wealth and status and believes a working person has a right to an opinion and college professors do not receive revelation.
Other people I know are single and broke. They go out to dinner every night and blow all their money on the things that don’t matter in life. Some, could have children and replenish the ummah, but they just want to live the lifestyle of their kafir peers.
Dan // May 23, 2009 at 2:54 pm |
I agree with you, and thanks for the clarification.
Jamal // May 23, 2009 at 5:14 pm |
People who are afraid about providing for the children are the rich westerners who live luxury lifestyle, even they have one children they are financially in debt.
Muslims are commanded to live simplistic lifestyle, i have five siblings and my parents were not rich, earned below the average American salary, but we never went hungry or thought we needed more money. i thing its all down to family structures. Many people in America don’t know how to raise a family, or they are confused what is right or wrong and that’s due secular thinkers and politicians who deconstructed the western tradition of family. To have family in Europe and America is seen as a burden because they have a very materialistic understanding of life which they got indoctrinated by the secular mass media.
Umm Hussain // May 24, 2009 at 2:37 am |
Jamal, who are these “rich westerners” you refer to who are the people afraid about providing for their family. I know many, many poor, working class, single parent, families raising children who are all one paycheck away from being homeless and yes, they are extremely concerned if not afraid about providing for their families, paying rent and buying food — you know the luxuries of life. I am always amazed at how a “they”, i.e. “secular thinkers and politicians” for example, have changed society around as if so many of us, our friends, family or co-workers did not chose certain lifestyles on their very own.
Jamal // May 24, 2009 at 5:01 pm
That’s probably because they spend their money on their luxury lifestyle even though they have little money. Family take precedence in Islam, if you believe that and apply it in your life you will find that with a few dollars you can feed many people.
Jamal // May 23, 2009 at 5:17 pm |
Family oriented people of all race, ethnicity and religion see having more children as a blessing.
Jamal // May 23, 2009 at 6:44 pm |
When it comes to religion, working class people are always on the top. If you go to hajj you will see khutba is always given by bare footed religious scholar who could be seen by westetn people as centuries old or live in a different century but because of their taqwa they have huge followers, rich and poor.
Jamal // May 23, 2009 at 6:52 pm |
Bedouin people of West Africa are known to have created great scholars with immense piety and knowledge and are respected religiously all over the muslim world.
Jamal // May 23, 2009 at 7:05 pm |
Br Umar Lee, I suggest you homeschool your children.
Go to http://www.kinzaacademy.com Nabilah Hanson, Hamza Yusuf’s sister is the director al-hamdulillah
Umar Lee aka/ Double H // May 24, 2009 at 12:15 am |
Umm Husain,
Im not going to even bother with you. You sound like a paranoid elftist who is so arrogant that you believes it is not possible for anyone to disagree with you and be sane and/or not an agent. I also cannot believe that anyone would sincerely look at the Sunnah and say it is compatible with the modern feminist movement. People like you believe Islam has nothing to offer the modern world and that we need o be like sponges absorbing everything from the outside while not offering up anything.
Umm Hussain // May 24, 2009 at 3:25 am |
Umar, you are quite good at putting words in other people mouths. And sadly, equally as bad at misinterpreting clear words. Sorry if I hit a nerve or bruised your ego. It was never my intention. Like I said, you get a reply you don’t like and you revert to name-calling, insults and making grossly inaccurate assumptions. Paranoid elitist? I think not. You spew hate, rant with subtle misogyny, name call and when called on it (your own arrogance that you could care less about anyone who disagrees with you), your reply now is that you won’t even bother with me. Your bad manners are showing brother. So evident in your reference about “People like me” as if you know my thoughts, views or my life based on two brief entries that are totally supported by respected Islamic teachings and current events. When did I even use the words feminist or modern? Where is my comment about compatibility with the Sunnah.
To paraphrase brothers who can often be condescending: Calm down.
For the record, women have rights in Islam. To speak, to be educated, to work to make a significant contribution to society — in addition to being wives and mothers. The Prophet was one of the most significant men in history to advance the rights of women. If you have a problem with that, then it is you who should re-examine your understanding of Islam, the Prophet’s message and what you refer to as the Muslim World Order, whatever that is.
It is well documented that there are those who sit among the Muslims, make controversial statements and then fan the flames causing division, distrust and disaster. It is also well documented that while Allah has given women in Islam a respectable, dignified position in society, so few women actually enjoy that spot without a fight.
May Allah guide us all on the right path.
Umar Lee aka/ Double H // May 24, 2009 at 11:46 am |
Umm Hussain,
We see things differently. Most of feminism has been a rebellion against religion and patriarchy and that is what the prophets brought. I do not think one can read the seerah completely, not cherry-picking, and come away with the belief that Islam and feminism are compatible. Anyway, maybe you hate men or something ( issues?), Jamerican Muslimah also posted the video and said the same thing I did, maybe you can argue with her or something and try and recruit her to a bra burning ceremony.
Umm Hussain // May 24, 2009 at 2:06 pm |
Why is it that when a Muslimah simply mentions in passing that she has rights in Islam, it often is translated into into her presenting a manifesto on feminism. On the occasion when a man states for whatever reason “it is my right”, I doubt that that anyone would refer to him as a wife beater or a woman hater. Wanting to live fully with your Allah-given rights does not make a woman a man-hater any more than a Native American or African-American wanting redress of their oppression in this country would make them a hater of white people. I do believe being married to the same man for almost 30 years and still being in love with him qualifies me to make that statement.
Once again, my original comments never even used the word feminism. You however, returned with assumptions, innuendo, name-calling and rather impolite responses to my commentary. I get it, but still not good.
Sadly, womens’ rights is one of the most serious issues within the Muslim world primarily because so few women enjoy them. Illiteracy, poor health care, and domestic violence are just a few issues many women in so-called Muslim countries face daily. I doubt you would want your daughter to grow up in a society that prevents her from exercising the protections and freedoms Allah has granted her. That’s all I am talking about.
I sincerely doubt that we actually see things that differently. Maybe its a soccer/football thing (like in my family). And despite my disagreements with you, your site is well structured and for the most part, you provide a good read. The fact that you did not delete me or my comments is a plus.
[And for anyone interested, please read about Umm Ayman. One dynamic sahabiyaat who the Prophet referred to as "my mother after my own mother." She was the only Muslim who knew and accompanied the Prophet from the time of his birth to his death.]
What is most important is that we both love Allah and try to obey Him. May we all make salah together in Paradise.
Sabir // May 25, 2009 at 7:19 am
I really don’t think you and Umar disagree; you just seem to be sensitive to different concerns and speaking from different points of reference. Neither of you is wrong, you’re just talking over each other.
Men need to understand that women will naturally be affected by seeing other women abused and oppressed in a way that men won’t. A woman is thus more likely to recognize that oppression of women is a major problem in the Muslim World today. Talking about women’s rights in Islam or seeking to draw attention to abuses against women doesn’t automatically make a Muslim woman a feminist. However, women need to understand that men have a greater tendency to conceptualize social phenomena within a broader political context. Muslim men are thus more likely to view the increasing focus on women’s rights in the Muslim World (which, in and of itself, is not a bad thing) through the lens of colonial and post-colonial dynamics between Muslims and the West. The emergence of “progressive” Muslim movements that attempt to reconcile Islamic values with Western social norms (particularly in the realm of women’s rights) is a disturbing trend not just because of the disdainful views such movements often hold towards Islamic tradition, but because they fit within a centuries-long pattern of Western efforts to co-opt Islam.
Muslim men and women who approach these issues would avoid misunderstandings by acknowledging each others’ respective points of reference. Supporting the Islamic rights of Muslim women and opposing feminism are not mutually exclusive.
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DrM // May 27, 2009 at 7:46 pm |
Don’t believe the hype, this video is more about racist fear mongering then proper statistics. Even if the math is accurate so what if Muslims become the majority, are they not citizens of the state? They sure had no qualms about millions of Muslims serving in their armies as colonial subjects of the various empires did they? It’s about RACE(you’ll hear the scum(elizard and co.) insisting that Muslims aren’t a race but continue to categorize us like we are one). You could be a 3rd or 4th generation desi but they would still see you as a “Paki.” Hell, look at what they did to the Bosnians who were white and non-practicing at the time. Even if there wasn’t a single Muslim in Europe, its population would still decline. The fact of the matter is European culture is archaic and inferior since it can’t replace its own population. The reasons are obvious :
The obliteration of the nuclear family unit
Femenism, homosexuality, atheism and radical liberalism
Decriminalization of Incest and other obscene and destructive behavior(they actually have a political party for pedophiles in the Netherlands, legalization of beastiality etc) You’d have to be a lunatic to consider such sickness as “enlightnement” in any shape or form.
and just ol’ plain laziness, which is why their governments allow immigration in the first place. If the Turks were kicked out of Germany, their economy would collapse.
White Europeans cannot allow Muslims to be different in the way that they love to believe they are different (barbaric, women hating savages with values that “are incompatible with our own”) but at the same time cannot abide the idea that Muslims are actually like everyone else.
It’s a hypocritical position born of a need to feel superior which expresses itself through discrimination by people who at the same time self-righteously lecture the Muslims they are victimising about enlightened values. And its not just Muslims, go ask Gypsies and non-Muslim immigrants how rosy things really are.
I would rather work on future relations but since many of these racists want to have an adversarial relationship with Muslims, so be it. They’ve been at it for 500 years destabilizing the world wherever they go, so I really don’t care for their decline.
Good riddance.
Jamal // June 3, 2009 at 8:04 pm |
The muslim demographics youtube video had 8,368,845 views just within 2 months.
Islam4Parents // June 5, 2009 at 6:11 pm |
Assalamualaikum,
Great post.
uk muslima!! // June 7, 2009 at 12:36 am |
subhana’allah i have a 3yr old son, n i worry abt the fitna in this dunya for us all but kids born n raised in this world wil b a battle for the rest of our parenting lives.!!
2 much at stake 2 bring mor and mor children in2 this corrupt dunya wen all they have here 2 learn is filth, its everywer u look.
gosh how tempting for a young 12yr old whos just hit puberty and lookin at the busty blonde across the road!!
yeh defo…….. bring in the kids!!